To -- FranklinRe -- "Knowing a bit about J.S. Mill, I doubt that the quote attributed to him is either genuine or in context. "Not You": put up or shut up: get the citation."The Quote:"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."John Stuart Mill (1806-1873)The Source:"The Contest in America" (1862) go look in a mirror