Thank you so much Franklin that's a damn good pic for my purpose...oh and "Mrs Bush" I'm not much for patriotism and I'm a bit young, but I don't remember clinton as being into war as a "solution" .... i have no respect for president bush and most of the younger generation that actually think for themselves believe that war is not the appropiate means for getting your way or making yourself look good....because that is what it's all about ...looking good it seems to me that bush is just gonna fuck up and stick his nose where it doesn't belong, as the government usually does, and get us all killed...anyway no one appreciates my ramblings so i'll not waste anymore of my time and message space